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Comments? We don't need no stinking comment! Digg vs Slashdot

News Type: None — Sat Jan 28, 2006 1:07 AM EST
technology, digg, comments, slashdot, lockergnome
By Scott Onken
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Lockergnome via Chris Pirillo has an interesting post commenting on the differences between the comment sections on Digg and Slashdot. Check it out at : (http://channels.lockergnome.com/windows/archives/20060126_digg_vs_slashdot.phtml)

I think this article hit the nail on the head and it got me thinking....are comments on either of these sites really necessary? Do they every really add anything to the story that's being linked to? Are comments really broken as Chris suggests?

What do you think? Do you feel the same way or is this just stupid?

Personally I rarely ever read comments on either site. Generally I go to the linked site without glancing at the comments because I am there just for the story. Most of the comments are off topic or don't add anything to the story anyways.

Slashdots's comments are often way to damn long or a competition to see who is the greatest comedian. Many of Digg's comments are pointless. The comments are filled with negativity against the story, the poster, anyone who dugg the story, or other commentators.

That's not to say all comments are bad. The comments can be a quick way to find the link to the original article or articles with additional content on occasion. Sometimes even forms of discussion on the story can be spotted in the comments. The problem is you have to wad through so much crap to find the good comments and frankly I do not want to spend that much time looking.

I realize each of these sites have ways to sort and/or filter on how users rated the usefulness / relevance of each comment. There is no easy way to sort the comments on Digg, only filter them. Plus any user has the ability to rate any comment, which I feel gives too much power to them (not that anyone rates comments there anyways). Slashdot's system is more configurable, and produces better results most likely due to its age. This still relies on moderator's opinions on a story.

At this time, I still think comments can be useful on these sites. There just needs to be either an improved system for commenting or better quality commentators. I am not sure the best way to solve this comment issues. Anyone else have any ideas?

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{"commentId":15177,"authorDomain":"jibone"}
jibone

Slashdot comments are unreadable to me. I rarely read any comments on Digg, althought sometime there are good commens on digg with the follow up of the story.

Maybe later on there will be a comment comparison between Digg Slashdot and Newsvine?

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    Reply#1 - Sat Jan 28, 2006 5:03 AM EST
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    oink

    Lame! No digg!

    :-)

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      Reply#2 - Sat Jan 28, 2006 2:18 PM EST
      {"commentId":15457,"authorDomain":"twhid"}
      T.Whid

      Is there any point to adding a comment here? hmmmmm...

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        Reply#3 - Sat Jan 28, 2006 5:03 PM EST
        {"commentId":15463,"authorDomain":"ianrocks"}
        Ian Van Ness

        Actually, I think you'll find that Slashdot's commenting community are up to par if you set your threshold high enough (and ignore anything modded 'funny' if you don't want to see all those folks who are just trying to be comedians). More often than not, you'll get commentors who are professionals in the area that is relevant to the article/post who have something to offer (perhaps a different angle or viewpoint that the story did not cover).

        While digg does have an active community, they don't seem to have an intelligent one (insofar as the commenting community seems to go).

        I think digg got it right in that all submissions are open, but the community it produces feels very much like an ADD culture - click and read, click and read, click and read, without really giving much thought about the content of the article that was linked.

        I feel that Newsvine's community outshines both sites at the moment, although things may change when the site opens up. Does Newsvine plan on adding reporting features to the comments? Or perhaps a voting system (same as regular stories) for comments.

        It's interesting to see Newsvine add a chat feature to every article, although I feel that because of the range of news posted here that it's unlikely to ever get a good community following on a single story.

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          Reply#4 - Sat Jan 28, 2006 5:11 PM EST
          {"commentId":15499,"authorDomain":"reveler"}
          Reveler

          I find the comments on Slashdot are usually too much work to click through and find anything that matter. Digg does tend to be a flame war but you can tell immediately and move on to the next comment. I find that I can usually find more information about a story in the comments. Which can be helpful because on Digg sometimes the links don't always give the full story.

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            Reply#5 - Sat Jan 28, 2006 6:13 PM EST
            {"commentId":15542,"authorDomain":"rwfaught"}
            R.W. Faught

            I actually enjoy the comments on digg. If I find a story interesting enough to follow the title then I am probably interested also in knowing what other people think about it, know about it, think are wrong with it... and every now and then I am able to add a comment that is useful to other readers in some way. Or I can just be a smartass. =)

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              Reply#6 - Sat Jan 28, 2006 8:13 PM EST
              {"commentId":15552,"authorDomain":"bnortham"}
              Brent Northam

              I agree with your final point. Digg comments first of all are flat format, preventing any meaningful discussion and leading to massive repetitiveness. Slashdot comments are the only reason I read the site. Perhaps your threshold is set too low, but there are very well informed and intelligent people on Slashdot most of the time, many times providing links to original sources the story submitter didn't take the time to research and providing opinion and factual information you would not have been exposed to without reading the comments. Granted, there are "trolls" and "flamewars" on certain topics, but those are easily avoided by the extensive control you have over what you wish to see in the comments section (which you've acknowledged).

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                Reply#7 - Sat Jan 28, 2006 8:26 PM EST
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                Nuno Sousa

                I have to say that comments are the reason I use those websites. I usually only read the +5 comments on slashdot because they're generally the funniest/most insightful/most interesting comments that really do add to the story. On digg I usually glance at the comments, but since they are not in a threaded manner, it doesn't promote much discussion.

                I am really enjoying newsvine's comments though. The layout of the website really encourages you to read them (as opposed to digg).

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